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>> even the late night comics getting fed up with the fiscal cliff stuff. good morning, everybody. i'm brian sullivan and welcome to way too early. only 2 1/2 more shopping weeks left until christmas by the way. so do your duty, america, bring our economy back from the brink. we've got a lot to talk about on this wednesday, december 5th. thanks for joining us. including a shameful display of partisanship in congress that resulted in the voting down of a u.n. treaty aimed at spreading rights for disabled people. even the venerable bob dole could not bring both sides together on this one. also major unrest in egypt as 100,000 protesters stormed the palace in cairo forcing president morsi to flee. we'll update you on the situation there. but first our top story live here at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock in new york city. and we begin with the latest on the rapidly approaching fiscal cliff deadline of automatic tax hikes on everybody and what appears to be a stalemate in the negotiations. in his first interview since the election, president obama reiterated his demand that any deal must raise t
>> even the late night comics getting fed up with the fiscal cliff stuff. good morning, everybody. i'm brian sullivan and welcome to way too early. only 2 1/2 more shopping weeks left until christmas by the way. so do your duty, america, bring our economy back from the brink. we've got a lot to talk about on this wednesday, december 5th. thanks for joining us. including a shameful display of partisanship in congress that resulted in the voting down of a u.n. treaty aimed at spreading...
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. >> and tomorrow morning's "washington journal", peter welch, on the latest development of the fiscal cliff negotiation. after that, joe shaw looks at the estate tax, which is set to go up the end of the year plus, your e-mails, phone calls, and tweets. "washington journal" is live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. now come in a discussion of how the military and national security might be a affected by spending cuts at the first of the year. part of the so-called fiscal cliff. former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mike mike mullen, was joined at how services committee. this is a less than an hour. >> good afternoon. thank you for coming. my name is peter peterson. i would like to give you a review of why we are supporting this project today. starting about 30 years ago, after studying the profound demographic trends, on the vast and unfunded promise we have made. i have decided was not unsustainable, but a primary threat to the future. speaking of unsustainable, in the nixon white house in which i served, the chairman of the council, if something is unsustainable, he says it co
. >> and tomorrow morning's "washington journal", peter welch, on the latest development of the fiscal cliff negotiation. after that, joe shaw looks at the estate tax, which is set to go up the end of the year plus, your e-mails, phone calls, and tweets. "washington journal" is live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. now come in a discussion of how the military and national security might be a affected by spending cuts at the first of the year. part of the so-called...
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fiscal cliff counteroffer. he says that republicans can't negotiate with themselves however the president has been very clear very publicly that the g.o.p. plan is definitely a no-go as is. crossroads gps part of the karl rove funded group of campaign super pacs is spending half a million dollars on a new ad campaign to push for a fiscal cliff deal that includes more spending cuts and fewer higher taxes. >> so far he says more taxes. >> the truth is the white house deal did propose some $600 billion in healthcare and spending cuts. finally, secretary of state ken says he will investigate the state's voting problems. the republican in florida told the state ethics and elections committee he will dispatch a special team to investigate the five florida counties that had especially-long lines. right after it he defended florida's voting mess saying he had no regrets. wewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewewe on to me now? you know the the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those t
fiscal cliff counteroffer. he says that republicans can't negotiate with themselves however the president has been very clear very publicly that the g.o.p. plan is definitely a no-go as is. crossroads gps part of the karl rove funded group of campaign super pacs is spending half a million dollars on a new ad campaign to push for a fiscal cliff deal that includes more spending cuts and fewer higher taxes. >> so far he says more taxes. >> the truth is the white house deal did propose...
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cliff? >> lord, i hope not, bob. i think it would be disastrous for the country if we did. you know, you can look at the forecast that we have, economic growth would slow, you know, by 4%. that, by definition, puts you back into recession when you're only growing by 2%. about two million people would lose their jobs. unemployment would go to 9%. you know, you can already see the effects of it-- you look at businesses, they're slowing their head count by atricks they're saying they're going to have to lay people off. they're going to cut their capital expenditures. they're going to cult their investments. they're already holding cash. moody's and fitch have said they would lower our credit rating. that would cause our interest rate to go up. i don't think the stock market has facted on factored this in. i think it would be a disaster to go over the cliff. >> schieffer: what about you usenator simpson, would they really let this happen? >> when you have responsible leaders saying like this, i
cliff? >> lord, i hope not, bob. i think it would be disastrous for the country if we did. you know, you can look at the forecast that we have, economic growth would slow, you know, by 4%. that, by definition, puts you back into recession when you're only growing by 2%. about two million people would lose their jobs. unemployment would go to 9%. you know, you can already see the effects of it-- you look at businesses, they're slowing their head count by atricks they're saying they're...
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two days after the republican fiscal cliff counter offer, both sides are coming out swings. speaker john boehner defended his proposal this morning, adopting a page from the dem's fairness playbook. >> the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. closing loopholes, especially on those who are wealthy, is a better way to raise this revenue than raising
two days after the republican fiscal cliff counter offer, both sides are coming out swings. speaker john boehner defended his proposal this morning, adopting a page from the dem's fairness playbook. >> the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. closing loopholes, especially on those who are wealthy, is a better way to raise this revenue than raising
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fiscal cliff negotiations. he tells cnn he is starting to see more and more republicans coming around to the idea of raising taxes on the top 2%. there is a letter that acknowledges that there is just so much that individual members can do at this point. after the election, we saw more than 65 petitions pop up on a white house webpage people asking that their state succeed from the union. puerto rico may be going the other direction. the majority of voters want in. some officials say the two-part question on the ballot was confusing and unclear, and not an indication that people there want to be a part of the united states, but others say the change is definitely coming. we're back after the break. come with us. ♪ every day presents another exciting issue. from financial regulation, iran getting a nuclear bomb, civil war in syria, fraud on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around th
fiscal cliff negotiations. he tells cnn he is starting to see more and more republicans coming around to the idea of raising taxes on the top 2%. there is a letter that acknowledges that there is just so much that individual members can do at this point. after the election, we saw more than 65 petitions pop up on a white house webpage people asking that their state succeed from the union. puerto rico may be going the other direction. the majority of voters want in. some officials say the...
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we will talk more about the fiscal cliff this morning on "the washington journal." what tax deductions would you give up as part of a solution to the deficit problems? here are the numbers to call. for republicans, 202-585-3881. for democrats, 202-585-3880. for independents, 202-585-3882. you can also find us online. send us a tweet, twitter.com/c- spanwj. find a son facebook and weigh in there. at journal@c- span.org. "the christian science monitor," asked what we would be willing to give up. "americans would be willing to give up the tax deduction for charitable giving over other popular tax breaks." host: let's take a look at the results of this poll. 25% said that they would be willing to give up the charitable giving tax deduction. almost the same amount said it would be willing to give up their deduction for state taxes. 19% said they would be willing to give up host: we would like to hear what deduction you would give up. you can weigh in on our facebook page, there's a poll set up where you can tell us specifically which interests you the most, or perhaps wh
we will talk more about the fiscal cliff this morning on "the washington journal." what tax deductions would you give up as part of a solution to the deficit problems? here are the numbers to call. for republicans, 202-585-3881. for democrats, 202-585-3880. for independents, 202-585-3882. you can also find us online. send us a tweet, twitter.com/c- spanwj. find a son facebook and weigh in there. at journal@c- span.org. "the christian science monitor," asked what we would be...
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>> this morning, my question, which americans are going over the cliff without a safety net. >>> plus, how washington state is stirring the pot. >>> sex education with tony award-winning playwright, eve insler >>> beware, our fiscal policy is under attack from amoral cybords. >>> good morning, my fellow americans. i'm melissa harris perry coming to you from the msnbc studios at rockefeller center in new york city. i interrupt our program to bring you the following news. cyboergs are among us. new recording that is uncovered the extent to which these artificial entities have taken over our country. right before our eyes, they have been taking over all of our nation's institutions, slowly extending their control over our political, legal, and economic systems with their insatiable appetite for profits and prophets alone. these amoral immortals are decimating the rights of us. they are not criminals but they can live forever. even when they take a death blow, a quick cash infusion can keep them going. you may not notice them yet. soon, they will amass every single asset capable of genera
>> this morning, my question, which americans are going over the cliff without a safety net. >>> plus, how washington state is stirring the pot. >>> sex education with tony award-winning playwright, eve insler >>> beware, our fiscal policy is under attack from amoral cybords. >>> good morning, my fellow americans. i'm melissa harris perry coming to you from the msnbc studios at rockefeller center in new york city. i interrupt our program to bring you...
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a lot of columns this morning talking about this issue, the ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations. here is "the washington post." we are taking your thoughts on the issue. but gutted the independent line. welcome to the "washington journal." caller: i agree also with a caller on the democrat line. i agree with what he was referring to -- c-span changing a with bias. the issues, they did not talk about it. the ones who are behind it are the political parties. the industrial military complex host: if the country does off of the fiscal cliff, who do you think it's more of the blame on this? it is the president of the united states or congress? caller: the people are being brainwashed to not speak up and get together like an tahrir square and rise up and say, we have to do it with this. we have to do away with destroying the country. we have to do away with $1 billion to a number of countries including israel. host: all right. we want to point out this from "usa today," in there opinion page. we are taking your calls for the next half hour or so on this segment. i want to point out a p
a lot of columns this morning talking about this issue, the ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations. here is "the washington post." we are taking your thoughts on the issue. but gutted the independent line. welcome to the "washington journal." caller: i agree also with a caller on the democrat line. i agree with what he was referring to -- c-span changing a with bias. the issues, they did not talk about it. the ones who are behind it are the political parties. the industrial...
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negotiations continue on the fiscal cliff. this morning, negotiations and how they were going. host: let's begin with what is business forward? guest: it is an organization with a very simple mission. our job is to try to make it easier for business leaders are around the country to speak out on issues of public policy. host: is this a brand-new organization? guest: we have been around for about three and a half years. our target market our business leaders around the country. we try to get them more involved in the policy-making process. we bring administration officials, members of congress out to cities across the country to do briefings with business leaders and then we bring those business leaders to washington to tell them how to grow jobs and how to recover. what do the business leaders say to the president? guest: we have brought 50 plus different groups to the white house to talk to the president's economic advisers. we have brought about 370 business leaders representing 32 different states. the message they are giving is pretty consistent with simpson- bowles and how
negotiations continue on the fiscal cliff. this morning, negotiations and how they were going. host: let's begin with what is business forward? guest: it is an organization with a very simple mission. our job is to try to make it easier for business leaders are around the country to speak out on issues of public policy. host: is this a brand-new organization? guest: we have been around for about three and a half years. our target market our business leaders around the country. we try to get...
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cliff" deal. stocks were mostly unchanged yesterday. the dow lost 13 points while the nasdaq was down 5. >>> fedex is offering some employees a voluntary buy-out plan as the package delivery company tries to save nearly $2 billion in the next three years. fedex will offer some employees up to two years pay to leave the company. most of the cuts will come from its express and service units. >>> and starting in 2016 the whole host of disney characters are coming to netflix. the online video rental service landed exclusive rights to stream disney movies before they air on premium cable networks. netflix will also stream some of disney's classic movies. no financial terms of the deal were released. but certainly a big score there for netflix. >> that is a big coup. >> i have a cousin who drinks starbucks every day. now i know what to get her. >> this would make her have a lot of clout there around starbucks, as well. they are introducing a $450 gift card. the starbucks metal car is made of etched stee
cliff" deal. stocks were mostly unchanged yesterday. the dow lost 13 points while the nasdaq was down 5. >>> fedex is offering some employees a voluntary buy-out plan as the package delivery company tries to save nearly $2 billion in the next three years. fedex will offer some employees up to two years pay to leave the company. most of the cuts will come from its express and service units. >>> and starting in 2016 the whole host of disney characters are coming to netflix....
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$800 billion in tax revenue in the fiscal cliff negotiations. president obama has said there will be no deal unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest americ americans. but staunch conservatives don't want any kind of new taxes. that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger cliff. i think that the president clearly has staked out a position of nonseriousness. and i think that it's very difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to get his attention. so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meeting this morni
$800 billion in tax revenue in the fiscal cliff negotiations. president obama has said there will be no deal unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest americ americans. but staunch conservatives don't want any kind of new taxes. that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up...
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president obama playing fiscal cliff hardball this morning. he's telling republicans he will not agree to a deal that doesn't include a tax hike on the wealthiest americans, hardening his position on this. he'll be meeting with business leaders today. >>> later this morning, speaker john boehner meets with fellow house republicans. sources tell cnn gop leaders are looking for a way out. >> it turns out the barefoot recipient of boots by a new york city police officer was shoeless but guess what, not homeless. city officials say jeffrey hillman does have stable housing, an parm in the bronx. they say he's lived there rent-free for the past three years. but hillman regularly panhandles in times square. >> a former boy scout who says he was sexually abused is suing is the boy scouts of america. the lawsuit claims his former troop leader, thomas hacker was barred from the group in indiana in the 1970s but was able to rejoin as a volunteer in illinois in the 1980s. hacker was arrested in 1988, later convicted in the aggravated sexual assault of an
president obama playing fiscal cliff hardball this morning. he's telling republicans he will not agree to a deal that doesn't include a tax hike on the wealthiest americans, hardening his position on this. he'll be meeting with business leaders today. >>> later this morning, speaker john boehner meets with fellow house republicans. sources tell cnn gop leaders are looking for a way out. >> it turns out the barefoot recipient of boots by a new york city police officer was shoeless...
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you know, as we're approaching this fiscal cliff thing obviously everybody's talking about oh we've gotta cut the entitlements like medicare. you've been pointing out something for awhile that we don't have a medicare problem. we have a healthcare cost problem. explain please, healthcare geek. >> this is one of the things people should really pay attention to because the healthcare crisis in this country gets so complicate and convoluted that people tune it out and then the republicans have this incredible opportunity to swoop in and make stuff up. we don't have a medicare problem. we have a healthcare cost problem. there is no competition in the healthcare market place right now. >> stephanie: right. >> okay. and people make money in the healthcare industry when prices go up. >> right. >> corporations make money when prices go up. we're talking about medical device manufacturers, drug companies, health insurance companies, they all make money the higher the prices are. they have no incentive to work for the public good. their incent sieve to make money for shareholders. higher prices in
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from "politico" this morning -- that is a little bit from "politico" on that fiscal cliff. david, thank you for holding. caller: yes, good morning. host: what do you think about hillary clinton could go future? caller: i do not think she will run. [indiscernible] we have the man that we need [indiscernible] we are not working. there is no way the government can be supported. host: that was david from georgia them but we are able to bring you some live events to date on c-span. this afternoon, the annual christmas tree lighting. the president will be there. that will be live at 4:30 p.m. eastern time. you will be able to see the lights on the national christmas tree. that is held right in front of the white house just south of the white house. jay on our boat page says -- says -- page scott is an independent from florida. caller: good afternoon, c-span. i am going to say some things you probably do not want to hear but there are the truth about hillary clinton. i think she is very intelligent and on top of her game. when i look back at her career when her husband was preside
from "politico" this morning -- that is a little bit from "politico" on that fiscal cliff. david, thank you for holding. caller: yes, good morning. host: what do you think about hillary clinton could go future? caller: i do not think she will run. [indiscernible] we have the man that we need [indiscernible] we are not working. there is no way the government can be supported. host: that was david from georgia them but we are able to bring you some live events to date on...
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cliff this morning. here's an article from "washington times" -- now this is from "politico." a situation that was in the paper couple weeks ago. looks li finally, before we go to phone calls, this article from the daily caller -- again, that is reported in the daily caller. we begin with a call from diane in julian, california, on our democratic line. caller: good morning, peter. my prediction came true, reelecting a president. women against violence acts, being held up by the house. john boehner and the republican house majority leader eric cantor. i tweeted last night quiet late saying the republicans are going to gang up on john boehner. there is an article in the new york times showing they feel he is dragging his feet and waiting until january 3. i also understand that the chairman of the government oversight and reform committee darrell issa, which is from our district here, is holding up the vote on the women against violence act also, which involves the illegals, native americans, and lgbt. this
cliff this morning. here's an article from "washington times" -- now this is from "politico." a situation that was in the paper couple weeks ago. looks li finally, before we go to phone calls, this article from the daily caller -- again, that is reported in the daily caller. we begin with a call from diane in julian, california, on our democratic line. caller: good morning, peter. my prediction came true, reelecting a president. women against violence acts, being held up by...
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cliff. the group is urging congress to take immediate action to avoid those automatic tax increases and spending cuts come january. president obama is saying that with the way speaker boehner plan stands now, no deal. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal is out of balance. we will have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we are not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> that was an exclusive with bloomberg t.v. and the first televised interview since the president's re-election. as you heard, taxes are the big issue blocking this deal from taking place. president obama is calling for downhill the amount of tax revenue as speaker boehner over the next tens years, most from the nation's top earners. many. republicans say that's not the way to handle this. here is marco rubio. >> it wouldn'ting make a small bent in the debt but it would heard middle class businesses. >> the g.o.p. could be risking a civil war over this issue. it does not look like obama is ready to cave. if that
cliff. the group is urging congress to take immediate action to avoid those automatic tax increases and spending cuts come january. president obama is saying that with the way speaker boehner plan stands now, no deal. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal is out of balance. we will have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we are not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> that was an exclusive with bloomberg t.v. and the first televised interview since the president's...
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this is one half hour. -- negotiations on the fiscal cliff. this is one half-hour. our and 2:00 p.m. for legislative business. votes will be postponed until 6:30 p.m. on wednesday the house will meet at 10:00 a.m. for morning hour and noon for legislative business. on thursday the house will meet at 9:00 a.m. for legislative business. last votes of the week are expected no later than 3:00 p.m. on thursday. members are advised that thiis a change from the original house calendar. mr. speaker, the house will consider a number of bills under suspension of the rules, a complete list of which will be announced by the close of business friday. additionally the house will appoint conferees for the national defense authorizion act now that the senate has completed its work. as was announced last week, the house has a number of outstanding legislative items that we must resolve and first amongst them is the so-called fial cliff. though the house's targeted adjournment sein october of last year was december 14, that is no longer the case. instead members are advised that the
this is one half hour. -- negotiations on the fiscal cliff. this is one half-hour. our and 2:00 p.m. for legislative business. votes will be postponed until 6:30 p.m. on wednesday the house will meet at 10:00 a.m. for morning hour and noon for legislative business. on thursday the house will meet at 9:00 a.m. for legislative business. last votes of the week are expected no later than 3:00 p.m. on thursday. members are advised that thiis a change from the original house calendar. mr. speaker,...
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host: democrats line and we're looking at the fiscal cliff, go ahead. caller: good morning. i want to know why we keep talking about social security and medicare? why are we not talking about ssi and medicaid? that is where the problem really lies because they have not paid into the program. social security and medicare. if we want to fix the situation, we need to cut to that plus all these charitable contributions. we've got people spending money for christmas so why are we not able to have money in the economy? guest: on the medicare aside -- this is a very important issue were one needs a lot of public a lot -- a lot of public education about the numbers and the reality. the gap between peril taxes paid in and premiums paid into medicare and spending going out his $3 billion per year. that program is a big part of the problem. it is also true of medicaid and ssi, i think they should all be looked at carefully we have sold this section to the american public that they pay a dime into a program, they deserve all the benefits. the gap between what you pay into medicare and w
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mcconnell: with the fiscal cliff fast approaching, i feel the need to point out something this morning that's perfectly obvious to most americans but which democrats in washington still don't seem to grasp. i'm referring to the fact that any solution to our spending and debt problem has to involve cuts to out-of-control washington spending. i know that might sound obvious to most people but for all the president's talk about the need for a balanced approach, the truth is he and his democratic allies simply refused to be pinned down on any spending cuts. americans overwhelmingly support some level of cuts to government spending as part of a plan to cut the federal deficit. yet, the president will not commit to it. he refuses to lead on the issue. the president seems to think if all he talks about are taxes and that's all reporters write about, somehow the rest of us will magically forget that government spending is completely out of control and that he himself has been insisting on balance. a couple of weeks ago we saw his plan. after four straight trillion-dollar deficits and two years
mcconnell: with the fiscal cliff fast approaching, i feel the need to point out something this morning that's perfectly obvious to most americans but which democrats in washington still don't seem to grasp. i'm referring to the fact that any solution to our spending and debt problem has to involve cuts to out-of-control washington spending. i know that might sound obvious to most people but for all the president's talk about the need for a balanced approach, the truth is he and his democratic...
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"morning joe" starts right now. >>> our country will be heading over the fiscal cliff that we ourselves dug and put in our way. it's the set of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that can only be averted if our nation's leaders are able to display bear bones competence and middle school-level maturity. so is there a deal? >> there's, of course, no deal. >> of course! is there a prospect for a deal? >> there's not a prospect for a deal. >> of course! but the ongoing talks. >> there aren't even very many talks going on. >> you're killing us! give us something. >> but for the first time, there are numbers on pieces of paper from both sides. >> numbers on paper! >>> good morning. it's wednesday, december 5th. welcome to "morning joe." live in the nation's capital. this is exciting. and you know, i said, let's do a show from washington, d.c., because they get so much stuff done there. it's like silicon valley. and going there when steve jobs was really bringing apple to the forefront -- >> a happening place. >> it is. it's where things happen. that's why we're here, steve rattner. >> wash
"morning joe" starts right now. >>> our country will be heading over the fiscal cliff that we ourselves dug and put in our way. it's the set of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that can only be averted if our nation's leaders are able to display bear bones competence and middle school-level maturity. so is there a deal? >> there's, of course, no deal. >> of course! is there a prospect for a deal? >> there's not a prospect for a deal. >> of course!...
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no movement to report in the fiscal cliff. we can tell that you across the country mayors and governors are becoming increasingly concerned about the impact back home. there's growing angst on capitol hill over the fiscal cliff. >> figure it out. >> it's really time to get serious. >> reporter: mayors are getting nervous. >> congress needs to act immediately. >> reporter: and the public is worried. in our new nbc/"wall street journal" poll, 70% of democrats and 59% of republicans urge compromise. the country is evenly split over whether that will happen. republicans rejected president obama's latest plan to accept less tax revenue and sent the exact same offer back to the white house with no changes. >> i don't believe that we've heard anything from the leadership that suggests they have moved off their position. >> i remain the most optimistic person in this town. but we've got some serious differences. >> reporter: federal reserve chair ben bernanke warns gridlock is already affecting the economy. >> why is it that consumer
no movement to report in the fiscal cliff. we can tell that you across the country mayors and governors are becoming increasingly concerned about the impact back home. there's growing angst on capitol hill over the fiscal cliff. >> figure it out. >> it's really time to get serious. >> reporter: mayors are getting nervous. >> congress needs to act immediately. >> reporter: and the public is worried. in our new nbc/"wall street journal" poll, 70% of...
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fiscal cliff. president obama and house speaker john boehner met behind closed doors sunday. it was their first face-to-face meeting since november 6, the election day, and now it look like some republicans may be breaking ranks. susan mcginnis is in washington with the latest. hi, susan. good morning to you. >> hi. many on capitol hill are encouraged by the weekend talks, but to get a deal done on time, apparently action this week is said to be critical. and now we have the president heading out on the road again. president obama leaves d.c. today, headed to michigan to talk to auto workers, part of his strategy to generate public support for his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff, the tax hikes and spending cuts due to kick in at year end. the president and house speaker john boehner met one on one at the white house on sunday. while no details were leaked, a rarity for washington, we do know the main sticking points remain. raising taxes on high earners and making cuts to entitlement programs like m
fiscal cliff. president obama and house speaker john boehner met behind closed doors sunday. it was their first face-to-face meeting since november 6, the election day, and now it look like some republicans may be breaking ranks. susan mcginnis is in washington with the latest. hi, susan. good morning to you. >> hi. many on capitol hill are encouraged by the weekend talks, but to get a deal done on time, apparently action this week is said to be critical. and now we have the president...
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c-span has part of our website set up specifically for the fiscal cliff. cliff.n.org/fiscal we're also following your tweets. if you write hashtag fiscal cliff in them, we can put them on the air. austin is calling from utah. caller: good morning. mr. david barton -- no, anyway, who used to be the comptroller for the budget office, dave walker was on your program back when and he pointed out something all americans need to understand. when the law was written, all the money that goes into the trust fund and gets invested in treasury bills, and treasury bonds = the united states government borrowing money. that equals we are loaning the united states government money. so all the money that has gone into that trust fund over the years goes into bonds and therefore is access to the united states government to spend. the only thing that is in a trust fund right now is basically iou's from the u.s. government. the only way -- place the interest comes from on the treasury bills is from the u.s. taxpayer pockets. you have this tidal wave of baby boomers that are
c-span has part of our website set up specifically for the fiscal cliff. cliff.n.org/fiscal we're also following your tweets. if you write hashtag fiscal cliff in them, we can put them on the air. austin is calling from utah. caller: good morning. mr. david barton -- no, anyway, who used to be the comptroller for the budget office, dave walker was on your program back when and he pointed out something all americans need to understand. when the law was written, all the money that goes into the...
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." >> coming up, just 22 days until the fiscal cliff deadline. most of the work of course going on behind closed doors between speaker boehner and president obama but this morning i'll go inside the negotiations with two lawmakers closest to them. top white house ally in the senate, dick durbin of illinois and congressman kevin mccarthy of california. i spent time on capitol hill this week. the one question i want to know this morning, what has changed since the debt debacle of last summer? the sense is we may be closer to a deal that posturing leads you to believe. we'll talk about that with our political roundtable, as well, with newt gingrich and msnbc's lawrence o'donnell and the 2016 speculation has begun. that's coming up. >> now, your 11 insta-weather plus forecast with ava marie. >> good morning. the time is 9:39, it is 53 degrees downtown. that's a live look from skycam right now, a couple of rain drops still on the camera lens. 50 degrees at b.w.i. marshall where the humidity has dropped to 93%, down from a 100% humidity earlier this mo
." >> coming up, just 22 days until the fiscal cliff deadline. most of the work of course going on behind closed doors between speaker boehner and president obama but this morning i'll go inside the negotiations with two lawmakers closest to them. top white house ally in the senate, dick durbin of illinois and congressman kevin mccarthy of california. i spent time on capitol hill this week. the one question i want to know this morning, what has changed since the debt debacle of last...
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as part of the fiscal cliff talks. first up here on overview from a capitol hill reporter on social security. >> here to talk about the prop program and how it is involved in these discussions. steven joining us from the associated press where he's a reporter. thank you for being here. how many people in america receive social security and how much do they get? guest: a little bit more than 56 million people get social security and the average benefit is a little over $12,000 -- let's see, a little over $1,200 a month. so maybe it's like $13,000, $14,000 a year. host: and we're talking about retirees. also, though, the disabled. guest: yes, yes. actually we have a fairly wide group of people get social security benefits. retired workers, spouses, children, disabled workers, widows, widowers. it's actually a fairly big social safety net of people who get social security benefits. host: as you mentioned, about 56 million beneficiaries. those retirees receive about $1,200 a month on average. the benefits for the disabled,
as part of the fiscal cliff talks. first up here on overview from a capitol hill reporter on social security. >> here to talk about the prop program and how it is involved in these discussions. steven joining us from the associated press where he's a reporter. thank you for being here. how many people in america receive social security and how much do they get? guest: a little bit more than 56 million people get social security and the average benefit is a little over $12,000 -- let's...
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. >> the so the president has made it very, very clear, drawn a line, no fiscal cliff deal without higher tax rates for the highest earningers, tax rates have got to go up. question, what will speaker boehner have to say about that? his reaction will be new at ten this morning. mark stein is going to be here as well and he'll join us to explore that and more. we have an oil and mining deal to tell, but. freeport mcmoran and copper and gold will have exploration and two separate deals for 9 billion in cash and stock. i'm not quite sure what all of that means. just tell me the stock price, nicole. >> it means big moves for these two stocks here. freeport mcmoran is now down over 15%, but when you look at plains exploration and production, a big mover to the upside and that's up 23. stuart: i'm trying to get this. freeport mcmoran, they're the ones that are doing the buying and plains exploration are the people who are being bought. so the people who are being bought go up because they're paying a high price and the people who are paying the money out are going down. have i got that roughly
. >> the so the president has made it very, very clear, drawn a line, no fiscal cliff deal without higher tax rates for the highest earningers, tax rates have got to go up. question, what will speaker boehner have to say about that? his reaction will be new at ten this morning. mark stein is going to be here as well and he'll join us to explore that and more. we have an oil and mining deal to tell, but. freeport mcmoran and copper and gold will have exploration and two separate deals for...
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host: our series on the fiscal cliff continues this morning with a dive into social security. here to talk about the program and how it is involved in the discussions, the negotiations over america's financial future, is stephen ohlemacher, joining us from the associated press, where he is a reporter. how much social security do people get? guest: a little more than 66 million people. the average benefit is a little over $12,000 -- a little over $1,200 a month. maybe $13,000 a year or so. host: we are talking about retirees and the disabled. guest: a fairly wide group of people receive social security benefits. retired workers, spouses, children, disabled workers, widows, widowers. a big safety net of people. host: retirees receive about $1,200 a month on average. the benefits for the disabled, $1,100 a month on average. how does social security get financed? guest: it has been a self-funded program since its inception. it is funded by payroll taxes. there's a 12.4% tax on wages up to about $110,000. if you make more than that, any money you make over that is not taxed as part
host: our series on the fiscal cliff continues this morning with a dive into social security. here to talk about the program and how it is involved in the discussions, the negotiations over america's financial future, is stephen ohlemacher, joining us from the associated press, where he is a reporter. how much social security do people get? guest: a little more than 66 million people. the average benefit is a little over $12,000 -- a little over $1,200 a month. maybe $13,000 a year or so. host:...
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. >> caller: i'm a little offtoppic from the fiscal cliff but i think i can bring us back. >> stephanie: all right. >> caller: there was a shooting on an indian reservation a couple of days ago. five people were left dead. a shooting was -- has happened in oregon. the media keeps hyping up the fiscal cliff and they actually had a report on cnn where they were showing this woman blathering about how she's going to lose her unemployment and everything and i feel like there seems to be a tie-in between the economy, what's going on and this constant rampage. i'm wondering what at point is our government going to speak about it. i'm not one to condone removing all guns. we need to have a conversation. >> stephanie: also, i think everybody's going a little crazy around the holidays. i think there are a lot of factors right now. everybody i know is -- we're having mutual bitch session all day on the phone. 17 minutes after the hour. kids, i don't know what we would do without carbonite here at the "the stephanie miller show." t-bone has all of our contacts, guest names and numbers in his compu
. >> caller: i'm a little offtoppic from the fiscal cliff but i think i can bring us back. >> stephanie: all right. >> caller: there was a shooting on an indian reservation a couple of days ago. five people were left dead. a shooting was -- has happened in oregon. the media keeps hyping up the fiscal cliff and they actually had a report on cnn where they were showing this woman blathering about how she's going to lose her unemployment and everything and i feel like there seems...
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house speaker john boehner and the latest update on negotiations or lack thereof on the fiscal cliff. let's go to this right now. moments ago on the hill. hear is the speaker. >> morning, everyone. this week we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis and, that offer included significant spending cuts and reforms, and it included additional revenue and frankly it was the balanced approach that the president's been asking for. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. our targets and framework are things that we can all agree on. and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group. my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago. and for that matter, in the joint select commit teach. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline i think he has an obligation to send one to the congress and a plan that can pass both chambers of commerce. if you looked at the plans the white house talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we're ready and eager to talk
house speaker john boehner and the latest update on negotiations or lack thereof on the fiscal cliff. let's go to this right now. moments ago on the hill. hear is the speaker. >> morning, everyone. this week we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis and, that offer included significant spending cuts and reforms, and it included additional revenue and frankly it was the balanced approach that the president's been asking for. now we need a response from the white house. we can't...
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oh, my goodness. >>> let's continue to talk about the fiscal cliff this morning because negotiations we know are stalled, and there's a new poll from nbc news, "the wall street journal" 67% of americans said they would accept a compromise on one or both of the biggest sticking points, increased taxes, cuts in spending. public leaders say government overspending is the root of our problems. our next guest says a collaboration between government and private industry would move the nation forward. "doing capitalism in the innovation economy" ranked among 2012's best books by the financial times. people talk about an innovation economy. what does that mean? >> i mean the processes by which through trial and error we discover new technologies, research is alied, and then the stuff that really matters is built out into the kind of networks from the canals to the railroads to the highway system, the electricity grid and the internet that transform the market economy and then finally there's a process again, trial and error, of exploring what this new stuff is good for. the point is that thi
oh, my goodness. >>> let's continue to talk about the fiscal cliff this morning because negotiations we know are stalled, and there's a new poll from nbc news, "the wall street journal" 67% of americans said they would accept a compromise on one or both of the biggest sticking points, increased taxes, cuts in spending. public leaders say government overspending is the root of our problems. our next guest says a collaboration between government and private industry would move...
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short term spending cuts should be part of any fiscal cliff deal. the big news this morning is we're not going over the cliff. they have a bad hand. they're going to end up passing this middle class tax thing if that's the only thing they do. and live to fight another day. you can see the momentum building. not official but you see it. the difficulty for boehner still is passing the extension may be best of the options it is an option that a chunk of his party has said he would reject. the fiscal conservatives criticizing boehner's budget pr proposal. then you had senate republicans watching their backs, rejecting a u.n. treaty that bans discrimination against those with disabilities around the world. senator jim demint said speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. yes, he said speaker boehner. one party proposes increase in an effort to counter them. the other party's leadership proposes, wait for it, $800 billion in tax increases and then former alaska governor sarah palin blasting boehner's decision to remove some conse
short term spending cuts should be part of any fiscal cliff deal. the big news this morning is we're not going over the cliff. they have a bad hand. they're going to end up passing this middle class tax thing if that's the only thing they do. and live to fight another day. you can see the momentum building. not official but you see it. the difficulty for boehner still is passing the extension may be best of the options it is an option that a chunk of his party has said he would reject. the...
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time of tension, we're looking at the fiscal cliff, to really use a few minutes to pay a tribute to two wonderful, outstanding senators who will be leaving us at the end of this term that i have served with. wonderful women named senator olympia snowe of maine and senator kay bailey hutchison of texas. dear friends across the other side of the aisle but though they were on the other side of the aisle there was no great divide between us. we have known each other for many years. a -- a few words i'd like to say about my very dear friend, senator olympia snowe. i served with senator snowe both in the house of representatives and then in the united states senate. wow. what an outstanding senator and congressperson she has been. and i know we will continue to see senator snowe in some type of role in public service, because that's just the kind of person she is. she is deeply in her d.n.a. a public servant. senator snowe has served her state of maine and our nation so well. she's one of our most respected members of congress, known for her civility, her sensibility, her mastery of the s
time of tension, we're looking at the fiscal cliff, to really use a few minutes to pay a tribute to two wonderful, outstanding senators who will be leaving us at the end of this term that i have served with. wonderful women named senator olympia snowe of maine and senator kay bailey hutchison of texas. dear friends across the other side of the aisle but though they were on the other side of the aisle there was no great divide between us. we have known each other for many years. a -- a few words...
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as the house wraps up, boehner briefed reporters on the status of the fiscal cliff talks. this is 10 minutes. >> good morning, everyone. more than five weeks ago republicans signaled our willingness to avert the fiscal cliff with a bipartisan agreement that is truly balanced and begins to solve our spending problems. president still has not made an offer that meets those two standards. republicans have. while the president promised the american people a balanced approach, his proposals have been anything but. he wants far more in tax hikes and spending cuts he'd once new stimulus spending and the ability to raise the debt limit whenever he wants without any cuts for -- or reforms. it is clear the president is not serious about cutting spending. spending is a problem. how big the problem? look at this chuart. this line is the current base line for revenue. here, if the president got everything he wanted, over $1.40 trillion in taxes, this is what that would represent. if you look at the spending problem, you see it does nothing. nothing to stop the spending problem that our
as the house wraps up, boehner briefed reporters on the status of the fiscal cliff talks. this is 10 minutes. >> good morning, everyone. more than five weeks ago republicans signaled our willingness to avert the fiscal cliff with a bipartisan agreement that is truly balanced and begins to solve our spending problems. president still has not made an offer that meets those two standards. republicans have. while the president promised the american people a balanced approach, his proposals...
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. >>> all right, less than three weeks to go until that so-called fiscal cliff, and still no deal. but this morning, there are signs of some movement in negotiations. president obama and house speaker john boehner did speak by phone last night. that conversation came after the president offered to reduce his initial request for $1.6 trillion in new revenue to $1.4 trillion but is reportedly not backing down on raising taxes for the top 2%. boehner's spokesman said republicans are still seeking further concessions on spending cuts. >>> well, there are some new details this morning on that london nurse who took her own life after passing through a prank call at the hospital that was treating kate middleton for extreme morning sickness. jacintha saldanha's family reveals that she left a suicide note, though they haven't released details of what that note said. earlier this week, the two deejays who made the call said the tragedy has left them shattered, gutted and heartbroken. >>> now, here's your first look at this morning's "dish of scrambled politics." mitt romney wasn't the only o
. >>> all right, less than three weeks to go until that so-called fiscal cliff, and still no deal. but this morning, there are signs of some movement in negotiations. president obama and house speaker john boehner did speak by phone last night. that conversation came after the president offered to reduce his initial request for $1.6 trillion in new revenue to $1.4 trillion but is reportedly not backing down on raising taxes for the top 2%. boehner's spokesman said republicans are still...
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wa wall street is saying about the fiscal cliff. plus kate out of the hospital but is she out of the woods. she's out of the hospital after battling a treatment for severe morning sickness. we get a report from london straight ahead. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. citi price rewind. avoid bad.fats. don't go over 2000... 1200 calories a day. carbs are bad. carbs are good. the story keeps changing. so i'm not listening... to anyone but myself. i know better nutrition when i see it: great grains. great grains cereal starts whole and stays whole. see the seam? more processed flakes look nothing like natural grains. you can't argue with nutrition you can see. great grains. search great grains a
wa wall street is saying about the fiscal cliff. plus kate out of the hospital but is she out of the woods. she's out of the hospital after battling a treatment for severe morning sickness. we get a report from london straight ahead. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day!...
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in the meantime while fiscal cliff negotiations continue, we hosted a roundtable discussion about the debt talks and domestic program cuts on this morning's "washington journal." can host: isabel sawhim and james capretta. mr. capretta, let me begin with you. are these sequester cuts devastating? guest: they would be deep cuts. 80% cut across the board is a very significant one-time cut for any program to sustain in the immediate year period. so they're not a good idea. would it be the end of the world? no. host: what do you mean by that? guest: there would be a downsizing of a lot of services across the government in terms of domestic accounts. so there would be fewer services being provided. there would be reduce in federal employees. some grant programs would take a haircut of 5%, 10%. so there would be some downsizing of the services that are provided by the federal government. but the economy would go on and the government would go on and the public would still continue to get by and large serviced. host: can agencies manage this? have they in the past? guest: we've managed sques
in the meantime while fiscal cliff negotiations continue, we hosted a roundtable discussion about the debt talks and domestic program cuts on this morning's "washington journal." can host: isabel sawhim and james capretta. mr. capretta, let me begin with you. are these sequester cuts devastating? guest: they would be deep cuts. 80% cut across the board is a very significant one-time cut for any program to sustain in the immediate year period. so they're not a good idea. would it be...
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. >>> this morning on "meet the press," time is running out to avoid the fiscal cliff. is a deal closer than most think? >>> this morning on "meet the press," time is running out to avoid the fiscal cliff. is a deal closer than most think? >>> in public, the lines are drawn. but behind the scenes, the give and take over taxes and entitlement cuts point toward a deal by christmas. what is standing in the way? this morning, the debate is right here. the house speaker's top lieutenant, congressman kevin mccarthy, and top white house ally, the assistant senate majority leader, dick durbin. mccarthy and durbin square off. >>> then, what is the political endgame for both republicans and democrats? who wins and who loses as this fight drags on? >>> plus, the future of the republican party is a hot topic as both sides start plotting the 2016 campaign. our political roundtable features two former capitol hill insiders, newt gingrich and lawrence o'donnell. plus, three journalists on the story. >>> the looming fiscal cliff 22 days away. is it stalemate or compromise? we'll go ins
. >>> this morning on "meet the press," time is running out to avoid the fiscal cliff. is a deal closer than most think? >>> this morning on "meet the press," time is running out to avoid the fiscal cliff. is a deal closer than most think? >>> in public, the lines are drawn. but behind the scenes, the give and take over taxes and entitlement cuts point toward a deal by christmas. what is standing in the way? this morning, the debate is right here....
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good morning, even. i'm lynn berry. there is a renewed sense urgency in washington as house members returned to town today with just 21 days left to avert that so-called fiscal cliff, and if the framework for an agreement isn't reached by the end of the week, lawmakers could be spending christmas in d.c. tracie potts has those good morning. >>> the president sitting down with john boehner, the staff sitting behind closed door, but today republican members come back to capitol hill and boehner may have a problem. >> all these members are going to come back to town, and they're going to want to play a role in these negotiations. >> the house is back today. that means conservative republicans who insist the wealthy keep this year's tax breaks could put the squeeze on their own party. that's the one thing president obama refuses to bend on. otherwise he says he's flexible. >> i understand, you know, people have a lot of different views. i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> so are some republicans to save tax breaks fo
good morning, even. i'm lynn berry. there is a renewed sense urgency in washington as house members returned to town today with just 21 days left to avert that so-called fiscal cliff, and if the framework for an agreement isn't reached by the end of the week, lawmakers could be spending christmas in d.c. tracie potts has those good morning. >>> the president sitting down with john boehner, the staff sitting behind closed door, but today republican members come back to capitol hill and...
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welcome back to "cbs this morning." this may be the critical week for a deal on the fiscal cliff. general electric ceo jeff immelt will tell us what's at stake in the u.s. and around the world. >>> and we'll talk with the ladies from "the talk" who are spending part of the holidays here in new york city. >>> first, here's a look at today's "eye opener at 8:00." >> the white house meeting here between president obama and speaker boehner occurred after the president extended that invitation to boehner on friday. >> there are 22 days left till the fiscal cliff deadline. there is no deal yet, but the two leading players are now talking face to face. >>> the colorado doctor kidnapped in afghanistan is safe this morning after a daring rescue mission by a team of navy s.e.a.l.s. >> the key to these things is surprise, speed and action. you get in there before they know you're coming. you're to the door before they know what's going on. >>> the upper midwest is digging out from its first major snowstorm. >> minnesota bore the brunt of this weather, some spots getting 16 inches of snow. >>
welcome back to "cbs this morning." this may be the critical week for a deal on the fiscal cliff. general electric ceo jeff immelt will tell us what's at stake in the u.s. and around the world. >>> and we'll talk with the ladies from "the talk" who are spending part of the holidays here in new york city. >>> first, here's a look at today's "eye opener at 8:00." >> the white house meeting here between president obama and speaker boehner...
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this morning part of our week-long and couple of weeks' long conversation on the fiscal cliff, a focus this morning on the expiring tax provisions. host: today we're looking at the issue of tax extenders or tax incentives for business and individuals. and joining us in this discussion is sam goldfarb, who is a tax writer for c.q. roll call. what are tax extenders? >> well, they're temporary tax breaks. that's basically i think the most basic definition and some people are kind of concerned that the entire tax code is turning into one big tax extendser. so where do you really define it? but i think traditionally they're considered to be these pretty small provisions, narrowly targeted at specific types of businesses. some of them do apply to individuals as well. >> so why are they temporary? >> that's a good question. i think a lot of people, including people in congress, say either they should be made permanent or they should be eliminated altogether. but they're temporary because it's easier to pass that way. it looks like it costs less. usually they keep on being ex tended and extend
this morning part of our week-long and couple of weeks' long conversation on the fiscal cliff, a focus this morning on the expiring tax provisions. host: today we're looking at the issue of tax extenders or tax incentives for business and individuals. and joining us in this discussion is sam goldfarb, who is a tax writer for c.q. roll call. what are tax extenders? >> well, they're temporary tax breaks. that's basically i think the most basic definition and some people are kind of...
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cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins us live from washington with app update on all of this. tracie, good morning to you. >> reporter: lynn, not quite empty. a lot of lawmakers on a long weekend break. take a look at some of the frustrated constituents they'll face. a protest in baltimore over social security, not the check but the jobs. the people who work in the offices who fear there could be super long lines for taxpayers if, in fact, their jobs are cut in all of this. so where do we stand today? there's a hearing today on capitol hill. the joint economic committee hearing on what can be done for the fiscal cliff. treasury secretary timothy geithner says the administration is willing to go over the cliff, let taxes go up, let these taxes happen if republicans press the idea of no tax increases for the wealthy. the latest we've learned, president obama and house speaker john boehner have spoken by phone. no word on what they discussed or whether there are any meetings planned, but just the fac
cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins us live from washington with app update on all of this. tracie, good morning to you. >> reporter: lynn, not quite empty. a lot of lawmakers on a long weekend break. take a look at some of the frustrated constituents they'll face. a protest in baltimore over social security, not the check but the jobs. the people who work in the offices who fear there could be super long lines for taxpayers if, in fact, their jobs are cut in all of this. so where do we stand...
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finally meeting face-to-face over the fiscal cliff. they sat down at the white house yesterday. neither side is discussing details. both agree the lines of communication remain open. massive tax hikes and spending cuts take hold in 22 days if the two leaders can't work out a deal. >> a busy day sunday at seattle city hall. 133 same-sex couples tied the knot. sarah and emily cover were among the first couples to get married. the same-sex couples married sunday in seattle were among the first to pick up their marriage licenses last thursday. the state required a three-day waiting period before ceremonies. >>> european union leaders are in oslo to receive the nobel peace prize. hundreds of protesters have been braving oslo's snow. the prize was meant to honor contributions to disarmament and eu member states account for a third of global arms exports. >> thanks, christine. >>> it is now 15 minutes after the hour. time for "early read," your local newsmaking national headlines. a big medical story in the "philadelphia enquirer." it's in a
finally meeting face-to-face over the fiscal cliff. they sat down at the white house yesterday. neither side is discussing details. both agree the lines of communication remain open. massive tax hikes and spending cuts take hold in 22 days if the two leaders can't work out a deal. >> a busy day sunday at seattle city hall. 133 same-sex couples tied the knot. sarah and emily cover were among the first couples to get married. the same-sex couples married sunday in seattle were among the...
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>> reporter: still the fiscal cliff. good morning and happy monday, guys. it's kind of a weird day out there. a little foggy. erskine bowles, he of simpson-bowles was on "squawk box" this morning and put the number to it. he thought there was a 40% chance that a deal would get reached by the end of the year. a 30% chance that the deal would get done early next year and then the remainder, whatever thatight be, would be never and he called that chaos. so really it's all about the fiscal cliff, guys. i wish i had something a little more light and fun for you on a monday morning. >> nothing like going through friday's numbers, down to 7.7%. a lot of chatter over the weekend that was only because people were getting out of the workforce in record numbers, et cetera, et cetera. what's your take? what's wall street's take on the numbers on friday? >> reporter: it's like this. it's like i reported on friday. it's better than expected. what we did in our "street signs" was why are the expectations so low? i went through the numbers, back to 2002, ten years ago. 57
>> reporter: still the fiscal cliff. good morning and happy monday, guys. it's kind of a weird day out there. a little foggy. erskine bowles, he of simpson-bowles was on "squawk box" this morning and put the number to it. he thought there was a 40% chance that a deal would get reached by the end of the year. a 30% chance that the deal would get done early next year and then the remainder, whatever thatight be, would be never and he called that chaos. so really it's all about the...